It wouldn't be too much of an overstatement to say that talking to Dan was an epiphany of sorts. This is the man! The Michael Jordan, the Babe Ruth, the veritable Da Vinci of modern day bodybuilding. Although we spoke at length on various topics, the crux of our conversation was about, what else? Steroids! I took full advantage of every moment to pick Dan's brain on the subject that he almost single-handedly brought to the forefront of the bodybuilding community.

As many Testosterone readers may already know, Dan has written countless articles and several books, including the well-received diet bible, "BodyOpus." But none are more infamous than the original "Underground Steroid Handbook." This modest 18-page pamphlet was the very first piece of literature on the practical application of steroid use for bodybuilding purposes. Although there are a few inaccuracies in USH, it presented an innovative, brutally frank, and often brilliant blueprint of steroid descriptions and their applications. He also offered what was, at times, a "crudely humorous" yet startlingly eloquent philosophy concerning the use of performance-enhancing substances. To this day, there is hardly an iota of information written on the subject of steroids that hasn't in some way stemmed from Dan's original observations.

At one point during our conversation, I stopped being an interviewer and became a fan. You can't really blame me, though, as it was a chance to get a first-hand account of history from the guy who literally "wrote the book." I asked Dan, "Are you aware of the impact you've had on the public's understanding of steroids?" Dan's response was succinct, yet sounded as if it was one he had answered many times. He said, "I simply took the subject of drugs out of the doctor's office and placed it on the kitchen table."

When Muscle Media abandoned its hardcore stance and attempted to succeed as a "fitness" magazine, Dan's irreverent opinions were silenced. But that's all over now! Dan is free to speak his mind.

It should be of no surprise to anyone that he has a lot to say.

NM: Dan, I understand that you've been working on some new material. Any hints on what's up?

DD:

NM: So your tenure with Bill Phillips is over?

DD:

NM: Any chance of Testosterone stealing you over?

DD:

NM: Well, we are trying to be a bit more selective in what we promote and to whom we promote it.

DD:

NM: Now that the Muscle Media reign is over, any thoughts about what's going on over there?

DD:

NM: What do you think is starting to hurt them? Is it the promotion of too many products?

DD:

NM: Wasn't that the impetus behind the "change?"

DD:

NM: Speaking of supplements, what's your opinion of the attempt on the part of the supplement industry to ease their way into selling what are essentially drugs? A case in point would be injectable prohormones.

DD:

NM: Will the sublingual prohormones slated to hit the market be more effective?

DD:

NM: How effective do you think an injectable Andro would be?

DD:

NM: Really?! That's a bit of a surprise.

DD:

NM: You didn't really have a lot to work with, did you? ...Other than the limited data and your personal experiences.

DD:

NM: I understand that you're taking a more therapeutic approach to steroid use these days.

DD:

NM: Since Saw Palmetto blocks the enzyme that converts test to DHT, would combining it with Deca have the same effect?

DD:

NM: Getting back to your current steroid preferences...

DD:

NM: And you cycle the D-bol?

DD:

NM: I'm with you there, Dan. Tell me, do you think there is any advantage to taking oral steroids sublingually so they bypass the liver somewhat?

DD:

NM: You were already out of the steroid-dealing business and into the supplement business when you got nabbed the second time for, what...a small amount of GHB, wasn't it?

DD:

NM: That's hilarious!!!

DD:

NM: Does Dan Duchaine have anything up his sleeve as far as new innovations?

DD:

NM: Dan, I think we have a lot of great stuff for now, but I would just like to say before we go that I've been following your work for some time now, so this has been a real kick for me.

DD:

Like all great innovators, Dan paid a price for thinking differently. But it's never the people who "aim to please" that make a difference. It's always the men who stick their necks out and take risks that make the discoveries for future generations to remember. There's an old saying, "No one ever erected a monument to a committee." In other words, it's the individual who's important, the lone voice of reason and madness who breaks the rules and reassembles them in a way that makes it impossible for people to ever view things in quite the same way. Dan Duchaine is such an individual. It's irrelevant whether you think his contributions have been mostly positive or negative. He has forever changed bodybuilding.

I wouldn't be surprised if he does it again.