http://www.t-nation.com/category.jsp?categoryID=40 T-Nation: Steroids en-us Fri, 24 May 2013 16:09:46 GMT Fri, 24 May 2013 16:09:46 GMT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss T-Nation via P-APP-01 webmaster@biotest.net webmaster@biotest.net 40 60 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1879427
First off please don't email me asking for juice connections, I don't have any to give out. I am happy to help people with cycle plans but won't hook you up with a connection. I am not a medical professional, just a dude that knows a lot about juice so take my advice as just that.

So on to the guide...

you wanna learn about juice eh. Well the purpose of this thread is twofold:

1. There are way too many "this is my first cycle, does this look ok" threads junking up the steroid page and they all get the same response so I am going to try to save everyone some time. Read it. Re-read it until you understand it so you don't waste people's time with questions that have been asked a thousand times.

2. I would like to provide everyone that is trying to learn with a very quick and easy guide to understand how to put together a proper cycle that will match their goals. This is really the basis of what you need to know. My reasons are kinda selfish for this - I would like androgens to be legal for use (over the counter) in my country one day before I die; for this to happen we are gonna need to educate people so they stop fucking up and giving gear a bad name.

PART I - YOUR FIRST CYCLE

There seems to be two schools of thought on first cycles:

One camp says juice hard your first cycle (about 1-1.5g/week), primarily test (500-1000mg/w) and then a secondary compound and orals to make up the rest because you will make you best gains on your first so you might as well max it out. My issue with this approach is there is a very high potential for things to go wrong so you need to be really well prepared, well educated about dealing with sides, and you need to trust your ancilliary source (to mitigate side effects).

The other camp says use a moderate amount of test only *500-600mg/w) and use more test/different compounds on successive cycles to continue making gains. Save the Deca, Tren, Masteron, EQ, Winny, HGH, IGF-1, etc, etc that you have heard about to get more out of future cycles...chances are this isn't going to be the only cycle you run so add them into future cycles one at a time so you know what works best for you and you continue to see big gains in future cycles. They don't really work better than test, they just work different so you might as well start with just test to see how your body reacts to it...I will go over all the other compounds in the later sections so just forget about them until you understand this one.

I am not sure anymore which camp I am in...I think the more conservative one just because it is an easier learning process and a bit safer but that is not to say it will produce better gains. That would require a lot more research of both protocols head to head.

This is an ideal first cycle for everyone or at least a base to build on:

(NOTE - W X-Y means start of week X to end of week Y)

Cycle Plan
W 1-10 Test Enth 250mg E3D
W 1-12 Adex 0.25mg EOD (reduce to 0.125mg EOD in last week)

This would be an example of a camp number 2 keep it simple cycle. You don't really need to get more complicated than this but if you want to below are some typical inclusions for a first cycle...

Optional secondary additions
W 1-4 Dbol 10mg 3x/d if you want an oral kickstart or just a little something extra thrown in mid cycle when your test is kicking in (seems most lately are going with the latter)
W 1-8 Deca 300mg/w if you want some additional bulking help
W 1-8 Tren Enth 150mg E3D if you want additional strength help
W 6-12 Proviron 25mg 2x/d if you want some help with libido

Optional Ancilliaries
W 1-12 Nolva 20mg/d if gyno symptoms (itchy/tender nipples) start to show
W 1-10 Caber 0.5mg 2x/w if you are having prolactin issues (difficulty getting an erection when on tren or deca)
W 3-10 HCG 250iu 3x/w if you want to prevent your nuts from shrinking and make recovery easier

Post Cycle Therapy starts week 13

It is the same with either approach...you just have to make sure that your gear is cleared from your system before you start PCT (or it won't work because you will still be getting suppressed from the gear).

PCT Option 1 (SERM PCT)
W 13 Nolva 20mg 2x/d or Clomid 50mg 2x/d
W 14-16 Nolva 20mg/d or Clomid 25mg/d

PCT Option 2 (Test Stasis and Taper)
W 10-12 Off (if your cycle was enth 2 weeks is enough to drop down to normal levels)
W 13-14 Test Enth 40mg E3D (stasis portion to mimic normal hormone levels)
W 15-16 Test Enth 30mg E3D (taper portion)
W 17-18 Test Enth 20mg E3D
W 19-20 Test Enth 10mg E3D

The taper gradually takes your body below normal androgen levels slowly enough that it is able to kick in and compensate. There is a much more detailed explaination of this in the "Test Taper Protocol" sticky thread so I suggest you read that if you are interested in this approach.

Now that you know what to take lets talk about who should cycle and what to eat and train.

YOU SHOULD NOT CYCLE IF:

1. You are under the age of 25
The reason is that your natural test is still very high and you are able to make very good gains without gear. There is also a very good likelyhood that you are going to end up messing up your endocrine system because you are still in a period where it is fluctuating. If you are not making good gains you need to look at your training and nutrition. I personally waited until I was 27 to start taking gear even though I was ready to rock when I was 20 so I know how you feel but you need to trust that with proper diet and training you can make gains naturally. The rare exception is individuals with a lot of training experience in their teens who have already acheived a very high level of physical development (230lbs+) and is already at or near their genetic limit. If you are one of the rare individuals who has already reach a very high level of development through consistent training the absolute earliest you should consider gear is 20.

2. You are over 25 but have been training less than 5 years
If you have not been working your ass off in the gym for at least 5 years naturally with good nutrition you have a lot of natural potential left. It is best to exhaust as much of your natural potential possible before resorting to gear. Gear should be the final piece of the puzzle to your ideal physique. By gearing up too soon you may be short changing yourself.

3. Your diet and training is crap
Gear is not a magical pill. It makes hard work more rewarding, it doesn't give results for doing nothing. All you will get is some temporary water retention which will be gone when your cycle ends. Diet and training on gear is everything. Period. You should have a very good idea of what you are going to eat (including macronutrient breakdown) and what your training plan is going to be. If you aren't already eating properly you can make some very good gains by doing so first naturally. If you aren't already training properly you can make some very good gains naturally...make use of that then think about gear. This site has a wealth of info on both topics. If your training and diet is off you will just waste your money doing a cycle.

4. You are a fat guy looking to get "cut", "ripped", or "shredded"
If you are a big fatso and think gear is going to make you slim and jacked it isn't going to happen. Fatloss comes from proper diet and training. If you can't cut down without the gear you will have just as much trouble on the gear. If you are looking for something to aid fatloss try a fatburner and then add on muscle once you have cut down.

It will look a lot more impressive and be a lot more successful....again this site has a wealth of info on losing fat...I highly recommend checking out the Velocity Diet that Gus is doing in the Physique Clinic...it shows what proper training and dieting can do. The anabolic diet is great for guys, I suggest checking it out as well because if you are fat you are likely fairly insulin resistant so cutting carbs will likely provide very damatic results. You get to eat a lot and because of what you are eating your natural testosterone will be high.

Cutting cycles are run by vets that already know what they are doing, have diet and nutrition down, and are just looking for the last little tweak to their already lean physique. Once you have achevied that status you can look at cutting cycles.

5. You are emotionally unstable
Gear can mess with your emotions. If you are an unhappy/depressed person that thinks being geared up is going to make your life better chances are you are going to feel good for a little while when on and then when you come off you are going to be lower than when you started and likely downright suicidal.

If you are a livewire that goes off in a rage when you drink, do drugs, or when someone pushes your buttons guess what? Gear is going to make this worse. If you have trouble controlling your anger then gear will make it more difficult. You will likely end up acting like a bit of a maniac and alienate your friends.

If you have answered yes to any of the above 5 questions you are not ready for gear.

Read this. Re-read this. Let it sink in. Then read everything in the Newbie thread stickied right beside this thread if you haven't already. Then come up with a plan that works best for you based on YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF GEAR. Post it on the board and get feedback once you know that you are serious and have most of the details figured out.

Happy lifting.

FG ]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 23:35:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1879427 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=2356081 What is Gyno?

Gynecomastia, or gynaecomastia, is the development of abnormally large mammary glands in males resulting in breast enlargement, which can sometimes cause secretion of milk. The term comes from the Greek gyne (stem gynaik-) meaning "woman" and mastos meaning "breast".

The condition can occur physiologically in neonates (due to female hormones from the mother), in adolescence, and in the elderly. In adolescent boys the condition is often a source of distress, but for the large majority of boys whose pubertal gynecomastia is not due to obesity, the breast development shrinks or disappears within a couple of years.

The causes of common gynecomastia remain uncertain, although it has generally been attributed to an imbalance of sex hormones or the tissue responsiveness to them; a root cause is rarely determined for individual cases.

Breast prominence can result from hypertrophy of breast tissue, chest adipose tissue and skin, and is typically a combination. Breast prominence due solely to excessive adipose is often termed pseudogynecomastia or sometimes lipomastia.

Gynecomastia should be distinguished from work hypertrophy of the pectoralis muscles caused by much exercise, e.g. swimming.



Some Causes:

Physiologic gynecomastia (also called Turcios Disease) occurs in neonates, at or before puberty and with aging. Many cases of gynecomastia are idiopathic, meaning they have no clear cause.

Potential pathologic causes of gynecomastia are: medications including hormones, increased serum estrogen, decreased testosterone production, androgen receptor defects, chronic kidney disease, chronic liver disease, HIV treatment, and other chronic illness.

Gynecomastia as a result of spinal cord injury and refeeding after starvation has been reported. In 25% of cases, the cause of the gynecomastia is not known.

Medications cause 10-20% of cases of gynecomastia in post-adolescent adults. These include cimetidine, omeprazole, spironolactone, imatinib mesylate, finasteride and certain antipsychotics.

Some act directly on the breast tissue, while others lead to increased secretion of prolactin from the pituitary by blocking the actions of dopamine (prolactin-inhibiting factor/PIF) on the lactotrope cell groups in the anterior pituitary.

Androstenedione, used as a performance enhancing food supplement, can lead to breast enlargement by excess estrogen activity. Medications used in the treatment of prostate cancer such as antiandrogens and GnRH analogs can also cause gynecomastia. Marijuana use is also thought by some to be a possible cause; however, published data is contradictory.

Increased estrogen levels can also occur in certain testicular tumors, and in hyperthyroidism. Certain adrenal tumors cause elevated levels of androstenedione which is converted by the enzyme aromatase into estrone, a form of estrogen. Other tumors that secrete hCG can increase estrogen.

A decrease in estrogen clearance can occur in liver disease, and this may be the mechanism of gynecomastia in liver cirrhosis. Obesity tends to increase estrogen levels.

Decreased testosterone production can occur in congenital or acquired testicular failure, for example in genetic disorders such as Klinefelter Syndrome. Diseases of the hypothalamus or pituitary can also lead to low testosterone.

Abuse of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) has a similar effect. Mutations to androgen receptors, such as those found in Kennedy disease can also cause gynecomastia.

Although stopping these medications can lead to regression of the gynecomastia, surgery is sometimes necessary to eliminate the condition.

Repeated topical application of products containing lavender and tea tree oils among other unidentified ingredients to three prepubescent males coincided with gynecomastia; it has been theorised that this could be due to their estrogenic and antiandrogenic activity.

However, other circumstances around the study are not clear, and the sample size was insignificant so serious scientific conclusions cannot be drawn.



Treatment:

Treating the underlying cause of the gynecomastia may lead to improvement in the condition.

Patients should talk with their doctor about revising any medications that are found to be causing gynecomastia; often, an alternative medication can be ft avoids gynecomastia side-effects, while still treating the primary condition for which the original medication was found not to be suitable due to causing gynecomastia side-effects (e.g., in place of taking spironolactone the alternative eplerenone can be used.)

Selective estrogen receptor modulator medications, such as tamoxifen and clomiphene, or androgens or aromatase inhibitors such as Letrozole are medical treatment options, although they are not universally approved for the treatment of gynecomastia.

Endocrinological attention may help during the first 2-3 years. After that window, however, the breast tissue tends to remain and harden, leaving surgery (either liposuction, gland excision, skin sculpture, reduction mammoplasty, or a combination of these surgical techniques) the only treatment option.

Many American insurance companies deny coverage for surgery for gynecomastia treatment on the grounds that it is a cosmetic procedure.

Radiation therapy is sometimes used to prevent gynecomastia in patients with prostate cancer prior to estrogen therapy. Compression garments can camouflage chest deformity and stabilize bouncing tissue bringing emotional relief to some. There are also those who choose to live with the condition.



Possible treatment for Gyno using Letro:

SERM - Selective estrogen receptor modulator. These drugs work by binding to the estrogen receptors and flooding them in a sense, making it difficult (but not impossible by any means) for estrogen to bind to the receptors and thus prevent the onset of estrogen related side effects.

Most common forms: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex), Clomiphene (Clomid)
AI - Aromatise Inhibitor. These drugs work by inhibiting the aromatization of estrogen. This means that in effect AI's prevent androgens from converting to estrogen, again, making it difficult (but not impossible) for estrogen to reach receptor sites.

Most common forms: Anastrozole (l-dex, a-dex), Exemestane (aromasin), Femera (letrozole). For our purpose of reversing gyno we are interested in Letro.

Letro and your sex drive:
Letrozole will suppress your sex drive. This is another reason why it is so important to act on preventing gyno as soon as possible. Since we all know that Test should be run in every cycle this will cancel out the effect of sex drive suppression.

Running letro to prevent gyno:
If you decide to run estrogen protection while on cycle (and it's suggested that you do unless you are aware that you do not require it), you can run either a SERM or an AI.

Letro will be the most powerful AI you can use, it will inhibit 98+% of estrogen using a dose as low as .25mg and even lower. This is why I suggest you do not use a dose higher than .50mg while on cycle just trying to prevent estrogen related side effects.

You will want to start running the letro approximately 2 weeks before you begin your cycle to allow it to fully stabilize in your blood. It's been said that letro takes up to 60 days to stabilize, I don't know if I buy into this for the reason that some have reversed gyno after using letro for only 1 week. Still to be safe, it's recommended to start it before your cycle as stated above.

If you do decide to run letro there is absolutely no need to run another AI or SERM. Do not make the mistake of thinking more is better. Think of it this way; if letro is preventing the conversion of androgens to estrogen than there is no estrogen, what would the purpose of a SERM be when there is no estrogen to bind to the receptors? Nolva will only take away from the effectiveness of letro.

This brings me to my next point. Do not listen to anyone who tells you to bump up your nolvadex to 60+mg ED if you get gyno. I have no idea where this idea started but I have seen it suggest far too many times recently.

Nolvadex will do nothing to reverse your gyno, let me make that clear IT WILL DO NOTHING FOR GYNO. If you are running nolva as your anti-e and start to develop gyno than sure you can bump the dosage a small amount to try to prevent it from progressing further, but letrozole must begin ASAP.

It is very important that you begin taking letrozole immediately, the longer your wait the more risk you take in not being able to reverse it.

How do I know if I have gyno?
If you have developed gyno you will have a lump behind your nipple. It will be fairly hard, and it will be tender to touch.

Running letro to reverse gyno:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the letro ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro.
2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. It's recommended that people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone.

Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .125mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally, most have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.

Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another AI or SERM.

So, it's suggested that when you are coming to the end of your cycle you will more than likely be using Nolva in your PCT so just make sure that you begin taking nolva the last day you are going to take your letro and then continue on as you would with regular PCT.

This now leads us into the question of reversing gyno while not on cycle. There are a few things to remember here. You have already waited longer than you should have, and your sex drive will be shot.

You can use tribulus or another natural test booster to help you in this scenario but I can't guarantee the effectiveness. Just follow gyno reversal protocols 2 or 3. When coming off again you must taper and begin using nolvadex to prevent any rebound effect that may occur.

How much nolvadex should you use if you are not going into PCT and running this off cycle? I suggest starting at 20mg ED for a week and then lowering it to 10mg for another week and then coming off completely.






Other Links:

http://www.gynecomastia.org/
http://www.plasticsurgery.org/...FTOKEN=44259626
http://www.gynecomastia.com/




Credits due to C-Bino, Wikipedia, Gynecomastia.org, WebMD, eMedicine.com, Familydoctor.com, and Gynecomastia.com ]]> Tue, 21 May 2013 09:04:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=2356081 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4176951
I will try and add more threads to this list, there are so many good ones I can't possibly claim this is comprehensive.

Cycle Plans/Logs

- rrjc's "Test/Tren/Dbol/G6":
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/.../testtrendbolg6

- Cortes' "Test/Tren/Dbol run":
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...esttrendbol_run

- jMill2's 2on2off plan:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...ek_cycle_layout

- tw2battl2's summer cycle:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...st_proptrenmast

- Kayveeay's log:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/..._ovt_summer_log

- BBB's "My Current State of the Art":
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...tate_of_the_art

(Note that this will be hopelessly outdated compared to what BBB would do now, but it's interesting anyway.)

Steroids

- Bill Roberts debunking the Tren progestin myth:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...ptor_activation

- BBB on nutrient repartitioning properties of Tren:
https://tnation.T-Nation.com/...ng_vs_body_temp

Peptides

- Cortes' "BBB's HGH Protocol":
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...s_hgh_protocol_

- Cortes' "The HGH Experiment":
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...hgh_experiement

- BBB on insulin pre-workout:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...before_training

- Dirty Gerdy's GHRP6 log:
http://velocity.T-Nation.com/...gerdy_ghrp6_run

- Nidal's "Mesomorphic Condition":
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/..._hgh_experiment

(This has numerous tidbits and summaries of old threads that people probably won't read through.)

- Bill Roberts and DLB on GHRP-6 rehab dosing:
https://tnation.T-Nation.com/...p6_rehab_dosing

- BBB/DRG's PGF2a log
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...herhood_of_pain

Ancillaries

- Westclock's Pramipexole experiences:
https://tnation.T-Nation.com/...ole_experiences

- BBB and KSMan on Selegiline/Deprynyl:
http://tnation.tmuscle.com/...egilinedeprenyl

- tmhlbrk's Cabergoline thread:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...trencabergoline

Homebrew

- Bill Roberts on removing estradriol benzoate from Synovex:
http://velocity.T-Nation.com/...n_to_tren_cycle

- Bill Roberts on Finaplix conversion:
https://tnation.T-Nation.com/...nt_fina_formula

- Discussion of BA/BB ratios and filtering:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/..._ratio_for_babb

- Discussion on how to make painless gear:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...mebrew_painless

General

- Bill Roberts on frontloading:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...ontloading_test

- Morepain on site injections:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...ion_enhancement

- Bill Roberts on recovery time and tapering:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/..._between_cycles

- Morepain, Bill, and BBB on backloading monojects:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/..._oilbased_shots

- Prisoner's "Post Your Pre-AAS Physique":
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...as_physique_pic

- DOHCrazy and others on dealing with acne:
https://tnation.T-Nation.com/..._i_did_about_it

- Discussion on the feeling of being "on":
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...ing_of_being_on

- The VG site:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...uteal_injection ]]> Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:01:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=4176951 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5664215
10 ML / Tren 200 (Tren E)
10 ML / Test 450 (Blend Test C / P / E)
60 ML / Anavar Oral Suspension

30 ML / Liguid Letro
50 ML / Liquid Tamox
30 ML / LiquidDex

You guys have any experience with these and if so, how would you set it up? thanks guys.
]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 15:55:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5664215 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5664129
If you're losing your hair, you'll want to try out "the big 3." Either one, or multiple compounds depending on the severity of your hair loss or what steroids you're using.

For those who don't know the "big 3" for hair loss are the following.

1.Finasteride (Propecia, Proscar). Blocks DHT systemically. Sadly, this cannot be used with deca-durabolin as the finasteride will convert it into dihydronandrolone which is even worse on your hair than DHT.

2.Minoxidil (Rogaine, SpectrumDNC, Lipogaine minoxidil). Hair growth stimulant, people aren't sure of it's exact mechanisms but it is clinically proven to work. Women's strength rogaine is only 2 percent minoxidil and men's strength is 5 percent. It's possible to find 15 percent concentrations if you order overseas and these are super-effective.

3.Ketoconazole shampoo (Nizoral, Regenepure, Lipogaine shampoo). Works by blocking some DHT at the topical level since ketoconazole is a relatively weak anti-androgen. Ketoconazole shampoos are the weakest of the big 3 but they have the fewest side effects.

A lot of people use Nizoral but I find Regenepure to be a much higher quality shampoo.
Whatever keto shampoo you're using make sure you leave it in the hair for 5 minutes, preferably 10 or even longer. Also, use it every day, or every other day. The twice a week suggestion is for dandruff, it's original intended purpose. It's a relatively weak anti-androgen so it won't be very effective if it's only used once or twice a week.

Now for the more HARDCORE "big 2" for those who are willing to risk the sides....

1.Dutasteride (Avodart). Basically this is super finasteride. It blocks both types of DHT while finasteride only blocks 1. This also cannot be used with Deca-Durabolin

2.RU58841. As you could've guessed by the name this isn't a commercially available product. It's an extremely powerful, topical anti-androgen that can only be purchased from chemical research websites. This is a fairly new compound that has never been tested so you're basically acting as a human guinea-pig using this. A lot of people though have reported no sides and lots of hair growth though.

Also, here are some compounds which for off-label use do have some scientific evidence behind them supporting their effectiveness for male pattern baldness but aren't widely known or discussed.

1. Spironolactone cream. Spironolactone is an ant-androgen which works by preventing androgens from reaching their receptors. It is often used by male to female transexuals in the process of their transition and there is also some evidence that it is effective for female pattern baldness though there are limited studies on it's effectiveness for male pattern baldness.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...les/PMC2684510/

2. Azelaic Acid. Another topical anti-androgen which is actually an anti-acne medication. Clinical studies have shown that it can block up to 90 percent or more DHT at the scalp, both types. Some minoxidil products like Lipogaine mix azelaic acid with 5 percent minoxidil together and many have reported on their effectiveness.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...pubmed/16343028

3. Saw palmetto. This may work as a very weak natural alternative to finasteride. It's been approved in Europe for the treatment of prostate cancer due to it's DHT inhibiting qualities. Thus it's possible it may be useful for treating male pattern baldness as well.

Now finally, the things that are bullshit.

1. Laser combs. There is no actual evidence that laser light therapy works and most studies done were actually funded by the manufacturer's of the product. This falls strictly into the hippy, new age, alternative medicine snake oil.

2. Nioxin. There is not a single ingredient in this shampoo that helps with hair loss, absolutely nothing yet the promote it as helping with such.

3. Alpecin. Just another scam. Caffeine might have a mild stimulating effect on hair growth but it does nothing to actually stop the hair from falling out. Regenepure has caffeine too but it also has ketoconazole which is a clinically proven ingredient.

4. Any kind of herbal product that presents itself as an all natural remedy (procerin, provillus, herbal shampoos). By fighting hair loss you're already fighting against nature so if you want to keep your hair you need to defy nature and that means using products which aren't natural.
These companies would have you believe that hair loss is due to a health issue but there is absolutely no correlation. You can be the pinnacle of good health and still be bald, it's why doctors don't mention baldness when you go in for a routine check up.

TLDR version:

Minoxidil, ketoconazole, and finasteride work if you're trying to fight hair loss

Dutasteride and RU58841 are more powerful and should be tried if the above 3 alone fail.

Spironolactone and Azelaic Acid cream might help.

Laser combs, Nioxin, Alpecin, and herbal supplements are bunk.

Here is an image of my current hair loss stack...

My routine is as follows...

Jason's thin to thick shampoo every day. It's a regular thickening shampoo that I use after ketoconazole to help volumize my hair.

Regenepure DR. A great ketoconazole shampoo that I use almost every day. Has 1 percent ketoconazole and a bunch of soothing ingredients like aloe so it's easy on the scalp

Lipogaine The Big 3 shampoo. Another 1 percent ketoconazole shampoo I'm experimenting with. It's good, lathers a bit better than Regenepure DR but I don't like it as much, doesn't smell as good but it's still effective.

Generic Nizoral 2 percent. A very strong 2 percent ketoconazole shampoo. Fairly harsh on the scalp so I'll use this one just once or twice a week.

Generic 5 pecent Minoxidil. Very oily but effective, I use it once at night before going to bed.

Lipogaine Minoxidil. 5 percent minoxidil and 5 percent Azelaic acid. I can't say for sure if it's more effective than regular minoxidil but it is much higher quality. It dries faster and it doesn't leave your hair looking like crap.

Stinging Nettles. Apparently is supposed to work similarly to Saw Palmetto. I haven't noticed anything yet though. ]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 15:36:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5664129 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5657041
twice a week for 8 weeks then my pct was from gnc. so i lost a good amount of the gains.

this time i have plained better i have nolvadex and clomid for pct. the gear i used was

equipoise300 test400 for 8 weeks 1cc of each 2 times a week.

im 34years old 6ft4in 265lbs i havent gained a bunch of weight this time but the weight

changes greatly. i work out 5 days a week 5am-7am my waist is down from 38 inchs to

under 34 i added cardio into my work out plain. i eat like a horse noodles rice meat

meat meat protine drinks creatine monohydrate flax seed fish oil n2o plus a preworkout.

my question is i want to kick my next cycle up a little bit. i can get all the names u

tend to hear about. equipoise deca susts all the tests plus pill steriods n pct. i want

to saftly do a mass building cycle. any ideas on what would be a good combo? i hope its

ok starting a thread asking this. i have read lots of articles and they never seem to

fit my body type age exc.

question number 2 is the test 400 is a blend of 6 different tests the test 250 i used

was cypinate the 250 seemed to be stronger.

thanks new guy ]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 15:01:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5657041 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662454
I Am not new to the whole working out scene been on and off for over 2 years, off only due to injury.

My stats are :-
Age 19
Height 5,10
Weight 170lbs
bf % 12.5-13%

I also am running creatine daily and I do take pre workout sups usually jack micro or nano vapor.

My cycle will be
week 1 - 40 MG
Week 2 - 50 mg
"
"
"
Week 6 - 40 Mg

Im well aware that after this cycle i will loose a lot of these gains but as many other men out there I am needle phobic. Its something that cant be helped I think. So basically im just wanting to know if this cycle sounds okay and if there is any other methods than injecting test to keeping some gains.

Thanks

]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 14:44:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662454 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5663149 Ive read alot of conflicting stuff from different forums, i am just asking if you have MPB what stacks do you do.

I was going to do Deca and sust but then i read that fina accelerates hairloss when used with deca.I looked into bold but alot of people say its a waste of time.

Would a low dose of test, stacked with deca and var be bad on the hairline?
I dont really want to use fina but if i have to i will.
thanks, any help will be awesome

]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 14:06:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5663149 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5663949
I was suppose to be getting three vials of 100MG Tren and three vials of 100MG Prop
When I got home I actually received three vials of 100MG Tren and 2 vials of 100MG Prop. The third vial of test was 250MG Enanthate. How should I restructure my cycle now that I have 2 vials of prop and one Enanthate? Should I just order another prop and save the Enanthate for another day? Thanks for any advice. ]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 13:30:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5663949 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5663917
Ive been training for a couple of years now and am wanting to do my first steroid cycle.

I have done alot of research in the last couple of months and came across the Bill Roberts 2 week cycles and various other peoples posts.
I would like to make my first cycle a 2 weeker due to different factors;

1. I live in spain, its almost impossible to get any gear/ancillaries in my town (legally).
2. Im heading to thailand for 4 weeks and therefore have not more than 2 weeks time for PCT.
3. I am not looking for huge gains, an extra 2-3lbs of leans mass gain would be more than enough on top of my natural progress rest of the year.
4. I like the fact that i wont need to use HCG on top on a 2 weeker and that the sides are less.

I have designed a 2week cycle plus PCT myself and would like to hear other opinions of more experienced people on it.

Day 1 (frontload):

Testosterone Propionate 300mg
Trenbolone Acetate 150mg
Dianabol 50mg

Days 2-12:

Testosterone Propionate 150mg ED
Trenbolone 75mg ED
Dianabol 50mg ED
Arimidex 0.5mg EOD

Days 12-14:

Dianabol 50mg ED
Arimidex 0.5mg EOD

PCT

Days 15-21:

Nolva 30mg ED
D-Aspartic acid 3g ED
Vitamin C 3g ED

Days 21-30:

Nolva 20mg ED
D-aspartic acid 3g ED
Vitamin C 3g ED

My stats are:

20 years old
181cm
84kg
8% body fat
2 years of intensive training

Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated as i want to do this safely and right.

Thanks to anyone who answers in advanced,

Endo
]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 15:43:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5663917 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662791
Now, I imagine that this is something manageable in the short term but has anyone had difficulty returning their blood lipids back to normal levels following a cycle?

One of the reasons I exercise is for my physical health. My diet is pretty impeccable. No added sugars, no alcohol, no tobacco, lots of fruits and vegetables as well as plentiful omega-3 fatty acids from both flax and cod liver oil.

When I eventually go on cycles, I'm hoping that between them it will be possible to repair the damage steroids do to cardiovascular health. ]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 03:09:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662791 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5663311
drop the test E down to 200mg's per week and cruise there untill after my next meet. Also i want to run d-bol the 3 weeks leading up to the meet at 40mg's per day. How does this sound? I feel confident that if diet and training are on point i can hit the 1,400 total i mention below.

I start work for the summer doing physical labor, but i will not let this bring my strength/powerlifitng down. I actually want to hit a 1,400 total at the end of july. Food intake will go up massively due to the labor all day... ]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 02:20:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5663311 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5495821 started lifting when i was 19 started using gear when i was 25 (will be 29 soon)
age: 28
height: 6'0
weight: 215 (12%BF)

First cycle - test cyp 500mg/week - 8 weeks

second cycle - test cyp 500mg/week - 12 weeks, dbol 50mg weeks 1-5,

third cycle - (found out about low test high tren) test E 250mg/week - 12 weeks, tren E 500mg - 10weeks, anavar 100mg - 4 weeks

Im on my fourth cycle and found that i saw ZERO sides from the tren. dont know if it was because im genetically not prone to tren sides or if the high tren low test had something to do with it.

but id like some advice on my next cycle.

test E - weeks 1-12 (375mg/week)
tren Hex - weeks 1-10 (600mg/week)
dbol - weeks 1-6 (50mg/ED)
Aromasin - weeks 1-12 (12.5mg/ED)

Nolva and clomid for PCT

week 1-4 clomid 100mg ED / Nolva 20mg ED
week 5 Nolva 20mg ED

does anyone have any experience with tren Hex?
should i stick with my usual low Test dose of 250mg or will 375mg do something extra for me.
Looking for mainly Strength and mass from this cycle.
Will need to Pin in 2 different injection spots with this higher dose of Tren. 3cc of Tren 2X a week in quads, should i pin the 0.5ml or 0.75ml of Test E in my delts? it seems like the easiest spot to reach for such a small amount.

any advice is appreciated ]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 01:30:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5495821 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5660864
stats: age 25
weight : 197lbs
BF - around 14
goal is to get bigger and leaner

I am currently on a test cycle at 500 a week. Also taking var 80mg a day for 6 weeks (mostly for extra strength.)
im on my 11th week at the moment. started at a weight of 184lbs (on creatine). I was initially taking lots of carbs at the begging of my cycle but my body fat jumped way too high 17%(was at 206lbs two months in the cycle with maybe lots of water weight).

Drinking too many weight gainer shakes and eating too many complex carbs and high protein at the time. Pretty high fat maybe around 60 - 80 gs a day maybe even more, Protein was and still is around the 324gs mark. I had been reading ellis post on here about a high fat low carb med protein diet. After 3 weeks of doing it im at 197 and around 13.5-14.5 bf. It Changes over the weekend.

i try to have some carbs mostly on the weekend. during the week i keep my carb consumption to just under 60gs a day which is all from veggies..maybe even less than 40. Im just wondering if this is ideal for good lean muscle gain as opposed to high carb diets? Definitely a little painful consuming so much fat (heachaches nausea at times). And my strength has suffered, All the fat i consume is from olive oil. Just picked up some coconut oil yesterday to change things up a bit.. what do you think and what advice can you
give me.

will be going on a test+tren cycle in the future and hoping to make some great gains.
any advice would be appreciated. my first post so take it easy on me.


heres what i eat in a day

morning 8 am two scoops of protein plus 3 tbs of olive oil
10 am - 7 hardboiled eggs
12pm - 2 4oz chicken breast with diffrent kinds of peppers (red green orange yellow) and brocoli followed by 3-4 tbs of olive oil
3pm - same as 12 pm
5 30pm - same as 8 am
after workout around 830 - 2 scoops of protein only
10pm chicken and veggies again.. sometimes 4 tilapia slices with veggies and then again 3 tbs olive oil

1130 or before bed half a tub of greek yogurt (now will be taking cocunut oil)

what does everyone think. I am getting around 4500 cals a day
k here we go..... ]]> Fri, 24 May 2013 00:46:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5660864 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5655682
Anyways, does this sound at all like antibody resistance? I am VERY concerned that I might have shut down my own natural hgh. Are there any recommendations with respect to tests that can be done to check for this? Should I dump the rest of my gh? Any feedback would be appreciated. ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 23:56:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5655682 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662423 I want to make sure i am doing all i can to keep my liver in "good" condition.
i know there are arguments on how dangerous orals can be (some people saying orals cause no damage or verry little if any, others saying they are very toxic)

Would taking milk thistle whenever i pop orals such as 40mg of d-bol be suffiecent?
I would rather just be on the safe side. ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 21:45:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662423 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662906
You hear all the time about "great genetics" being the #1 factor in bodybuilding greatness (and for the most part, I still think this is true), though these pics do suggest that (for some) you would have never guessed that these guys would have been the greats that they eventually became...at least not in the beginning.

In fact, I remember seeing a pic of Arnold and Patrick Schwarzenegger, shown side-by-side, both in their early teens, where they look exactly identical. Yet look what each look in their early 20's...shocking!

And, on the opposite end of that spectrum, you have guys like Sergio Oliva and Ronnie Coleman, two guys that surely looked the part long before hitting the gear.

No real point to this post, it just makes you wonder where, for some of these guys, genetics leave off and drugs take over in the great scheme of things (or perhaps more aptly put, where the two create a greater synergy). It seems that the "amazing one-in-a-million genetics" that we keep hearing about, for some bb's, weren't as evident in some folks as they are for others.

Any thoughts gents? ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 20:22:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662906 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5658501
I started to pin just test 1 ml on sat 5-11 and my second on Tuesday both are 1 ml. I was gonna start the tren on my 3rd week that way I will have the first 3 weeks and last 2 weeks of just test. Then I was also thinking about running a otc pct. I have 21 clomed the web site I ordered off of just gave me for my order. was gonna do that 2 weeks after my last pin.

Right now I feel like I can eat, screw, and lift anything. I like the feeling of the skin stretching. I started a PH 3 weeks before my first pin. In two days I run out of that.

I was told that a 10 ml bottle should last 10 weeks but I just don't see how. my dosage is low since it's a 250 mg vile. ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 16:42:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5658501 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662344
what is best to use?

GHRP-6 & cjc 1295
or
GHRP-6 & modGRF 1-29

? ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 10:20:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662344 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5655751

IGF-1 LR3: 2x25 mcg shot EOD over 40 days
CJC 1295 w DAC â?? 2mg per week; 1mg Tuesday and 1mg Friday
HGH Frag 176-191 at 250-500mcg per day over approx. 10 weeks.


In particular, I wanted to get opinions on how long to run the CJC and if that's a good timeframe for the Frag. I'm concerned about suppression. The reason for the limit of 40 days for the IFG based on my research and speaking to people. Thoughts welcome. Thanks! ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 12:00:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5655751 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5648254
I will have my protein carbs shake lets say at 10 post workout with the slin shot. At 11 I will eat a good meal of chicken and sweat potatoes.so can i take the gh shot at 1? Or should I place it somewhere where there is at least 3,4 hours no carbs intake? Like in the after noon for example??

Thanks. ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 09:54:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5648254 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5656233
Under what circumstances would nolvadex be superior?

Also, is there any difference between nolvadex and tamoxifen or are they the exact same drug?

Thanks. ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 04:46:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5656233 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5661159 Thu, 23 May 2013 03:51:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5661159 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662059
Wk 1-10: Test E or C - 250mg 2x/week, finasteride 5mg/d
Wk 1-12: arimidex .25mg/d,
Wk 3-10: hCG 250iu 3x/week
Wk 13: Clomid 50mg 2x/d
Wk 14-16: Clomid 25mg/d

Nolva on hand for 20mg/d if gyno symptoms occur. Obviously I'm being pretty conservative about side effects with all the ancillaries, as I'd like to minimize the chance of gyno, hair loss, and testicle shrinkage. What do you think? ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 02:45:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5662059 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5661994 Thu, 23 May 2013 02:29:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5661994 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5661697 usually the first 4 weeks of a cycle at around 40-50mg per day.

My question is, would i benefit if i take d-bol at 40mg, 2 hrs before lifting?
I am a powerlifter, and im wondering if i take it even just the 4 days per week that i lift, will that work? I am on test now, and have never expierenced with d-bol yet, i do have it on hand though.

I hear the strength/pump is great from taking all 40mg, around 2-3 hrs pre workout.
]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 02:28:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5661697 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5661982
DHEA - Sulfate 594.4 (160-449)
Estradiol - 28.2 (7.6-42.6)
PSA - 0.7 (0-4)
Test total - 532 (348-1197)
Test free - 12.2 (9.3-26.5)
TSH - 2.42 (.45-4.5)
T4 - 7.8 (4.5-12)
T3F - 3 (2-4.4)
T4, Free - 1.58 (.82-1.77)

Test levels may have been lower on this last test because I had it done at 2:30 and after working out.

If anyone has anything that may help or suggestions/advice please let me know. As of now I am having a lot of difficulty maintaining an erection and libido feels low.

Thanks ]]> Thu, 23 May 2013 00:15:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5661982 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5647058 Wed, 22 May 2013 23:58:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5647058 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5603243
Is there any way i can take a pro horomone without my gyno getting any worse? i am going to go to the breast specialist to see what he says as well or if he can get me something. I really need help, i need to get rid of this gyno asap without surgery. Any thoughts on how? or if i can take a PH and not effect the gyno any more? thanks ]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 21:47:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5603243 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5651176 W1-18Tren E 840mg /week 120mg/ED .6ml
W1-20EQ 700mg /week 100mg/ED .4ml


im going to throw in an Oral or two at some point. Thinking about winny about week 3-9 @ 100mg ED. and maybe some Dbol or drol the last 6 weeks (week 14-20) or i might reverse the order of the 2 orals.

thinking about going on a 6-8 week body recomp then trying to blow up to about 230+ by week 20. ]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 19:07:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5651176 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5539198 The decision has been made, I am coming off cycle after 8 months and attempting to restart the testes into producing again.

I went on cycle around June last year (thanks to a very helpful chap who sorted me out while I was in the USA, you know who you are ;-) ).
Since then I have had some cruise periods but mainly been blasting with 100mg Test Prop EOD, did a run of around 6 weeks with low test/high tren, and a cutter involving some DNP, T3, clen etc (not all at the same time before you start crying lol).

As it stands right now:
Test Prop - 25mg EOD
hCG - 375iu 2x/wk

This week I am sticking to 25mg EOD as it is valentines day and as you may be aware I cannot have any problems in the sack so to speak.
As of next week I will drop that dose to 20mg EOD, then 15mg EOD and so on.
I will also taper the hCG, I know that is not the recommended protocol but I have modified it to give me the best chance of recovering. I feel I cannot afford to remove the hCG as I see testicular atrophy VERY quickly if I miss a shot.
Alongside this I will start 20mg ED TAMOXIFEN also.

Bloods have been taken last week (no real point as LH/FSH will be rock bottom) but they wont hurt anyway.
I will have bloods drawn again roughly around the 15mg EOD point to see the effects on LH/FSH, to see if indeed I am starting to recover according to Prisoners theory of no suppression below 100mg/wk of Test. However will the hCG give a false LH reading? Hmmm...

Observations so far:
LESS ENERGY
MORE DOMS
NO DEPRESSION
NO MOOD SWINGS
NO IMPACT ON LIBIDO
WEAKER ERECTIONS

SB ]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 13:00:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5539198 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5659326 I just came up with a random thought (not sure if its alredy a sticky).. one thing i have noticed with the majority of the articles here, is that lots of acronyms are used in place of the actual words; pct,eod,pip ect ect...it took me some time through research to figure out alot of the meanings, so i figured why not start a thread with all the acronyms and their meanings for all new to the site/to better assist any guys looking to "take the plunge" and are doing thorough research before doing so..i know i wouldve appreciated it in the beginning.. thoughts??!! ]]> Wed, 22 May 2013 00:10:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5659326 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5655333
Any ideas on how to correct the issue or at least help it out? I didn't really see a search function on the site, so I apologize if this has been posted before. I read elsewhere that it might be due to a high red blood cell count. Any ideas? ]]> Tue, 21 May 2013 20:59:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5655333 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5659549
Another thing is that the bottles seal has obviously had needles poked through it. He claimed that his source mixed it right in front of him(the 4 esters). I supposed the questions are: How oily should this stuff be?(should it coat the inside of the bottle very well when I turn the vial). Should I tell the guy I want my money back?

All that being said, the guy I got it from showed me other test he got from his source, which has been the type for cattle(it had a cow on the bottle I'm pretty sure). So... what's up guys?

Thanks in advance for advice. ]]> Tue, 21 May 2013 19:25:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5659549 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5656110
weeks 1-4 dbol 37.5 mg a day
weeks 1-12 test e 500mg/week

i did not get the test flu til week 2.5, now I get the flu after every injection and run a low grade fever 99.5-99.8 degrees

my glute has a hard mass after every injection the size of a tennis ball and is red/hot, everything points to an infection so am i really getting an infection every time??? I have terrible workouts because I'm always achy and fatigued


can anyone help??????? ]]> Tue, 21 May 2013 02:35:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5656110 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5656722 Tue, 21 May 2013 00:38:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5656722 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5657033 Mon, 20 May 2013 16:40:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5657033 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5653864
The video will be editied using finalcut pro and motion so it's a legitamit ad, this is for my tv news editing class. Now i dont agree with the whole "anti" part, but since it involves gear it caught my attention. This WILL be on tv, so make it great! thanks. ]]> Mon, 20 May 2013 16:38:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5653864 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5641012
Up to 3 weeks ago, 200 mg of Test Cyp. a week, no AI. 3 weeks ago I added Anastrozole 1 mg per week when I pinned once a week. Last week I upped to 300 mg Test Cyp 1 mg Anastrozole. I want to up my Test to 400 mg and my AI to 2 mg. I understand this is no longer TRT and I am turning to the dark side. What do you think ow Darth Vader?

Thanks for your time! ]]> Mon, 20 May 2013 15:33:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5641012 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5656528 Sun, 19 May 2013 19:45:00 GMT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=5656528