A hater is not someone who simply "hates." A hater is someone who hates someone for being successful. A hater points out a negative detail about the person that is irrelevant to the person's success.
The Urban Dictionary defines "hater" best: "A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person."
To use an extreme example, when people say, "I hope Bin Laden is killed," they are not "hating" on Bin Laden. Bin Laden is indeed an evil man who deserves to die.
When someone says, "Fedor Emelianenko has a gut," they are hating on him. This is so even though it's true that he has a gut. However, his gut does affect his athletic performance, and thus it's irrelevant to the conversation. (If he were an underwear model, pointing out his gut might be a fair criticism.)
Likewise, if a CEO of Coca-Cola has a bad haircut, noting that he has a bad haircut when discussing his business performance is hating on the man. If stock decreased 50% under his watch, but he made $50 million as compensation for being CEO, noting that he raided the company would not be hating.
When someone makes a stupid comment and gets called out on it, no one is "hating" on that person. Rather, people are simply noting that the comment was stupid. The criticism is relevant to the comment. That's the key - relevance.
When someone does something immoral and people judge him, those people are not hating. Rather, they are pointing out the person's immorality.
I thought this distinction was obvious. But "hater" is so often overused that obviously it's not.
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Claw,
Thank you for correcting my errant use of the word 'hater'. I feel thoroughly educated on it's proper use, and will use it more perfectly from this point onward.
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Otep wrote:
Claw,
Thank you for correcting my errant use of the word 'hater'. I feel thoroughly educated on it's proper use, and will use it more perfectly from this point onward.
Morality is subjective. Thousands of people love and admire Bin Laden. Don't hate on him because he has been successful at what he does, whether or not you like it. That is, I believe, how you have defined 'hater'.
Perspective, folks.
Also, everyone, don't pull the 'OMG u like terrorrism!!!111WTF' bullshit. That's not what I said in any form./disclaimer
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Vicomte wrote:
Morality is subjective. Thousands of people love and admire Bin Laden. Don't hate on him because he has been successful at what he does, whether or not you like it. That is, I believe, how you have defined 'hater'.
Perspective, folks.
Also, everyone, don't pull the 'OMG u like terrorrism!!!111WTF' bullshit. That's not what I said in any form./disclaimer
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ukrainian wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Morality is subjective. Thousands of people love and admire Bin Laden. Don't hate on him because he has been successful at what he does, whether or not you like it. That is, I believe, how you have defined 'hater'.
Perspective, folks.
Also, everyone, don't pull the 'OMG u like terrorrism!!!111WTF' bullshit. That's not what I said in any form./disclaimer
This is a very useful thread. The next time I turn 14 and hang out at the mall, I'll keep this useful linguistic "trick of the trade" handy so as to not embarrass myself in front of the other 14 year olds at the mall.
Makavali wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Morality is subjective. Thousands of people love and admire Bin Laden. Don't hate on him because he has been successful at what he does, whether or not you like it. That is, I believe, how you have defined 'hater'.
Perspective, folks.
Also, everyone, don't pull the 'OMG u like terrorrism!!!111WTF' bullshit. That's not what I said in any form./disclaimer
OMG u like terrorrism!!!111WTF
pwned.
Fuck. I should have included a disclaimer for the misuse of my disclaimer. Disclaimer fail
